It’s not a problem if don’t rate his music, because Machine Gun Kelly provides plenty of entertainment off the mic; just ask Nardwuar. Having had the pleasure of conversing with A$AP Rocky, Action Bronson, Danny Brown and Kendrick Lamar thus far, Canada’s most famous Tam o’ Shanter-wearer also caught up with MGK at SXSW, for arguably the most entertaining interview of the lot.

In his usual format, Nardwuar prodded the Bad Boy signee and XXL Freshmen pick on a range of personal topics, where he spoke on his early love for Punk band Anti-Flag, which album sparked his interest in rap music, classic Cleveland hip hop and more. In probably a first for Nardwuar interviews, the guest actually gave him a gift, as MGK treated The Human Serviette to a homemade t-shirt in ode to his band, The Evaporators.

A Machine Gun Kelly interview wouldn’t end right without a bare ass, either. Watch below.